Bloody Hell

It has been a while since I wrote a blog. So a nine hour train journey from the West Country to the Midlands (thanks to Sunday engineering works) gives time which can be used to, literally right this wrong in a write way.

So a good place to start are comments which I have now gone through and approved. As usual the Jose Mestre and Jehovah’s Witnesses stance on blood transfusions has the most comment.

In the Blood

To have a substitue for blood in a critical blood loss situation would be brilliant; at the moment though it is only valid for minimal loss.

Health risks are nothing compared to being dead. Especially with death being a fatal condition with no after life healthcare coverage.

This is where my criticism of the religious refusal kicks in. As one who for many years was involved in going door to door in ministry work I do know the theological position, as I mention in another blog. The criminal act of letting your child die rather than give medical treatment, which gives them their only chance at living, is somehow countered with an after life faith in the resurrection. That spiritual care in whatever form has a priority over the material one.

The supernatural has no part in examing the best medical care for your child. A parent has no right to enforce their religious belief in this regard – their duty of care first and foremost is the life and physical well being of their child. Not what their interpretation of a text tells them.

Peace Out

Much as love, peace and understanding are good things the unnecessary death of a child cannot be allowed by a tolerance of religion or agreement that parents may give religious instruction to their children. It is a medical matter, and needs to be thought of in that way.

As to adults making the choice, it is their life to end as irrationally as they wish. In the same way that I can criticize that choice as being morally wrong, not with accord to the teachings of Jesus. The waste of a life, only serving as an example where belief in religion allows people to do things which for any other reason would shock more people to outrage.

My ability to tolerate belief is in the freedom of religion. That does not grant the liberty to inflict harm on those unable to reason for themselves with the ommission of medical care.


Thanks for the comments, keep them coming (whether you agree or not). When not on a train will link to the ones I am responding to here.

But please bear in mind two key points:

Argue with my points rather than personal comments – and if you do not know what a Homo economicus is think economics rather than sex.

Thanks guys …



Filed under blogs, Jehovah's Witnesses, Religion

3 responses to “Bloody Hell

  1. Another way to look at it is…..

    Bloodless surgery has been developed in the past few decades, largely spurred on by the refusal of JWs to accept blood transfusions. In North America today there are over 130 facilities that offer it, and many of them offer it exclusively. It’s practicioners (few of whom are JWs) typically regard bloodless as far safer medicine than transfusion safety, and recommmend it for all patients, not just JWs. Might the day come, or is it already here, when those benefiting from bloodless surgery will outnumber the few adverse outcomes of a relatively tiny religious group that has stood steadfast in its religious principles?

  2. As a religious person I feel it my duty to point out a few Truths worth your attention.
    I am not a Jehova witness to let you know. Truth what is truth, what makes your point of view of life more valid than another person’s point of view of the existence of heaven/hell or perhaps coming back and back again. Nothing really! I like to introduce you to a new term: workable truth! Everything is only ever a workable truth and may need to be revised by the individual themselves through out life.- There may be absolute truths, I just don’t know if mine are. – it ill behoves me or anyone else to play God and determine that one’s truth is or must be someone else’s truth.

    Secondly truth is likely to be a question of agreement, in other words things become true and workable truths when the majority or everyone agrees to it. interestingly enough, due to our current governmental system, a minority of elected representative can enforce an agreement on us all. As an example if our powers decided that all parents over the age of 70 must be killed by their children or looked after by themselves and enforce such by law, it will become a truth. (this majority factor is most likely a key reason when it comes to forming groups but I have not thought this point through.)
    As to your experiences or comments on religion, I could write much more but I abridge it to the essence, you can not read or study religion you must live it and when you have lived it you can do the “talk.” Most people try to study religion(s) as to figure out what to expect or what is the likely outcome to the big questions of life; this is not possible! Do the walk and you can talk. I assure you it is a hell of an experience and literally blows me away every time. (as a side note, no, you don’t have to join a religious group to become or find and experience what I talk about. It can’t be taught only experience but my religion did help me very much to find my own answers.

    I hope this comment finds your interest.

    • You might want to read the blogs on my experience with the JWs. I not only did the walk I knocked on doors sharing my faith. That sense of interaction with people is similar to my political activities knocking on doors, and the conferences similar to the American atheist conferences I attended (also covered here) so I know what you mean that fellowship with others brings a synergy that transcends the company you keep.

      As to truth it is not enough that people agree to it rather that a reasonable person would have to accept as true whatever their personal views may wish otherwise. Social justice theory could not be considered true in the sense that the theory of gravity could be considered true. Absolute or relative leave to other people – but the door should never be closed to honest open minded enquiry.

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