In An Ideal World Gays Must Be Executed says Abdul Qadeer Baksh

Abdul Qadeer Baksh, Chairman of the Islamic Centre in Luton, states gays would be executed in an ideal world – an Islamic state. He defends holding this view because this, sharia, would only happen if all the British people wanted (consented) to it. Talking about Saudi Arabia he claims sharia acts as a deterrent – punishments rarely happen.

You know, like the ten years imprisonment and 2,000 lashes for dancing on a car at night naked.

Tommy Robinson replied to him that in an ideal Islamic state Abdul wants gay people to be too scared to be gay. Sadly that fear already exists, not just in Islamic States but in Islamic communities. Abdul was rightly taken to task for adding to that by the host Olly Mann.


More on the ideal Islamic state can be found on Abdul’s blog and all quotes come from the same post The Five Higher Goals of Sharia Law – they are his words:

The purpose of the Islamic Law is for humans to achieve happiness in this world and the hereafter, by following the law of adopting the good and neglecting the bad.

The Islamic Law does not command anything that is not good for people, and it does not forbid anything that is not bad for them.

In an Islamic state we will be killed if we do not know what is good for us. Like being heterosexual. Procreation as a matter of life and death within marriage.

In order to protect the family, Islam forbids adultery, any other shameful deeds, and whatever leads to these deeds; such as the mixing of men and women.

In addition, Islam imposes the wearing of a veil for women in front of strange men to avoid seduction and sexual desire, for in Islam; women are precious jewels protected from being trifled with, misuse, and abuse.

The degeneration of women together with the veil. No Abdul I do not hear citizens of the UK calling for this to be imposed by law. What I am hearing is someone whose pretence at moderation is stretching credulity to breaking point. You do not speak for the Muslim people I know.

In the same post the Islamic state must deal with unbelievers:

Allah (S.W) obligated the community and the government to protect religion, to ease the means of practicing it. Thus, it must defend it; prevent every thing that leads to disobedience and disbelieving, by stopping the guilty and performing the punishments according to the law.

Now there is a huge difference between following a faith voluntarily without sanction, and in the Islamic state all will follow this or else punishments exist by force of law via sharia. The ideal state for Abdul Qadeer Baksh is quite simply hell on earth. The punishment for apostasy and being gay just a few examples. Remember the death penalty is good for you keeping the faith.

For Abdul these things enshrine “human rights.” To which I can only reply long live the secular state to protect us from the religious idealists that claim to be moderates. The enemies of reason that destroy language as they will an individual’s rights – rights that no state, faith or other person can take without violating another’s humanity. Universal human rights.

We are people, citizens. Using the freedoms we have to enjoy in our imperfect little state, may we expose the supposed “moderates” in our midst that would wish to have “happiness” ordained by law. These hell imposers of a black heart, and the destroyers of the human spirit that finds joy through life in all its diversity.

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9 responses to “In An Ideal World Gays Must Be Executed says Abdul Qadeer Baksh

  1. Mark

    There is more to that Three Counties radio program, if you go on iPlayer. They are interviewing Robinson and the bit posted is where Baskh comes in unexpectedly. Prior to that, Robinson suggests that he’d spent time with a Muslim “community leader and inter faith leader.” Who???? He carries on referring to the person as the said former, but lets slip that it’s Ansar. He infers Ansar is an apologist for Islamism and it was Quilliam which made him quit. The implication is that Ansar is a self-publicist, as well as an apologist for Islamism.
    He implies a documentary with Ansar might be shown next week.
    We have seen clips on Newsnight of Robinson sitting down with Ansar, Yaqoob and Quilliam.
    I think it might be a time to sit riiiiiiight back, and watch what happens soon with a VERY critical eye, because right now, it seems to me that everyone may have their hands in everyone else’s pockets and it’s all a huge game to them.

  2. Scott

    I wonder how many times this was retweeted or blog on by Laurie Penny and Owen Jones and other so-called anti-fascists.

    As much as I find Robinson and his views repellent, the worldview represented by Abdul Qadeer Baksh is far more troubling. It’s so easy to heap scorn on Robinson and his disorganised rabble of thugs. It’s not all that surprising that uneducated and ignorant people will hold right-wing views. What I find more concerning is people who, like Abdul Qadeer Baksh, are likely university-educated, well-travelled and highly literate and at the same time propose such things as killing gays and apostates and people who write satirical novels. They should know better.

  3. Nicola

    “… Islam imposes the wearing of a veil for women in front of strange men to avoid seduction …”
    Is he saying that Islamic men and women can’t control themselves if a woman’s face isn’t covered? Religion as a pseudo-conscience, in place of conscience, even?

    Thank god I’m an atheist!

  4. Mafasa

    Islam is bad, very bad and it has no place in this planet. The purpose of Islam is to take over the world and kill every single non-Muslim, and the evidence for that is in the koran.

    • Sadly there are those that believe in political jihad. Islamists do need exposing – and I have seen secular Muslims tackle them.

      Muslims are the main victims of Islamists – and all humanity must stand against these theocratic fascists.

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